Pogo Sticks and Magnesium Baths: Our Guide To Your Root Center

WD008 - Root Center
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Brandi Healy: [00:00:00] And when I was able to identify that, like I was able to step into that place of more of having, you know, wisdom of the center and like knowing everything on this list does not deserve that I.

And I can really give myself permission to slow down and actually relax. And so for me, that looked like, you know, canceling some commitments, taking some things off of my plate, saying no to things that I would've normally said yes to. And, you know, over the last two weeks I'm feeling so much better and. My stress levels have reduced significantly, and even as things kind of enter into my orbit, um, it's easy for me to tell, like, is that.

Mine or is that kind of somebody else's stress that's being [00:01:00] projected on my, on me.

Welcome to the show
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Kyle Wood: Hello and welcome back to the show. Uh, my name is Kyle Wood and this is well designed with me today is as usual, is my co-host Brandy Healy.

Brandi Healy: I was like so far. I've been with you every time. Nice to see you. Nice [00:02:00] to chat with you.

Kyle Wood: Nice to chat with you too. I just pulled the. Audio cable outta my headphones. So, um, apologies if you could hear that. Uh, all right, so today we are getting specific, we've talked a lot about different aspects of human design. We've kind of talked about broadly, what are the different, like why, you know, why did we get interested in it? Um, what are some of the different parts of the chart? Where we talked a bit about profiles, like what that fraction thing is on your chart today, we're actually gonna talk about, when you look up your design, you're often presented with this picture that looks like a diagram, looks like a circuit circuitry, where it's got shapes

Brandi Healy: The body

graph.

Kyle Wood: the body graph.

What is the Root Center?
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Kyle Wood: Yes. today we wanted to talk about. One specific area of that, um, each of those shapes is called a center, which we [00:03:00] covered. We will have covered in a previous episode when you listen to this, and today we're going to talk about one that's really easy to find. It's the one right at the bottom of the center.

It's called the root center.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, so the root center, each center governs, you know, a different part of a different aspect of our life, and the root center governs how we deal with pressure, drive and stress, and it kind of gives us, it's also like how we get things going and put things into motion.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I like that. It's kind of the, um, the wheels on the bus, they get things going. They get us moving. If like the sacral center's the engine, then uh, This is the wheels. The, the other thing I like about the root center as well is when I'm explaining it to people, a lot of people, if they've, they're familiar with the seven chakras, they, [00:04:00] you know, there's a root chakra as well, and it's, it's in a similar spot in the body.

It's, you know, it's right down there in your pelvis and, um, sort of it attributes to similar, similar things. So that can be a good starting point as well, if you're already familiar with that.

What is the difference between a coloured in center and one that isn't?
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Kyle Wood: But today we're gonna talk about The way this can show up. And so this can show up in one of three ways on your chart. Uh, it can show up colored in, uh, which it might be gray or it might be a specific color, depending on where you're looking at your chart. If you're using, um, human design blueprint, which the links, uh, in the chat here, or sorry, in the, the show notes, the color will be gray. It'll be, they, they just use like a, a gray scale, black and white. And so that means you've got a defined route. If it's white, it'll either be undefined or open and you don't really need to worry too much about what, um, [00:05:00] the difference between those two are or you.

Brandi Healy: We will use it. It, we'll use the term open and undefined interchangeably, but there is a difference.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah. There's a slight difference. And so like that's something we would go into on like a reading or in coaching, uh, we would go into those specifics. But for the purpose of today, we were talking broadly about how that number being that shape, being colored in or not colored in, we'll talk about how that can impact you.

The difference between being in your Shadow or your Wisdom
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Kyle Wood: And we've adopted the Two ends of the spectrum of being like living in your shadow or living in your wisdom. So that's sort of how we're, yeah, that's how we're gonna refer to things today. Aren't, isn't it Brandy?

Brandi Healy: Yes. And you know, when we talk about wisdom shadow , I don't like to think about it as like good or bad. Like I like to think of them kind of on a scale and no one is ever fully living [00:06:00] in their wisdom or really ever fully living in their shadow. It's, you know, very similar to like when we talk about our signature and our not self, right?

So it's like kind of using them as signposts to understand when this shows up for you. It's an invitation to check in and, and kind of understand like, ah, this feels really good. I may be in the wisdom of this center, or I'm feeling some resistance, like I might be in the shadow of this center

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah, I mean you, even on a given day, you can end up sort of sliding along that spectrum of going

Brandi Healy: many,

many times.

Kyle Wood: But what we'll hopefully do today is we'll help you identify when you're sort of sliding down the shadow end of the spectrum, uh, and then what to do about it, what actions you can take, uh, what you can try to become more aware of, that'll help you move back towards the wisdom, which is sort of that more integrated. Um, [00:07:00] aspect when you're integrating your design and you are treating these parts of your design as your superpowers, uh, rather than trying to, like, dismiss them or run away from them, or trying to like, just copy everyone else around you, regardless of what that means in your design.

Brandi Healy: All right, so do you wanna start and talk about open and undefined root centers?

Kyle Wood: Well, Brandy, I think we should talk about why we are needing to have this discussion today, about root

Brandi Healy: why are you attacking me right now?

Kyle Wood: Yes. Uh, we, yeah, we realized we needed to have this conversation. Uh, do, I mean, do you wanna speak to, we can talk a little bit about that shadow of, of the, the undefined route. Um, what, what was, what's been going on for you lately?[00:08:00]

What does it mean to have an open or undefined root?
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Brandi Healy: Well, it as a reminder, when you have a center that is open or undefined, that's where you are the most sensitive, so, You are absorbing energy in the center, and that is, you know, also has a, an opportunity for you to really learn from as well. This could be a really, uh, open and undefined centers are great places of learning.

So for me, , a learning that I have had as of recent as it relates to my route is, , you know, really reminding myself that not everything is worth a rush, that

I can take my time to do things. Um, and really, I found myself in my shadow having a long to-do list of obligations and commitments that was causing me [00:09:00] a lot of stress.

And when I took a step back and looked at it, I realized not everything on that list required my urgency. And when I gave myself the permission to take my time and to really look at that list and say like, what actually . Requires my immediate attention and what are some like, not must dos, but kind of nice to dos that I can put on the back burner to alleviate some of that pressure.

Um, and so, you know, for me that was really showing up in feeling a lot of stress, feeling a lot of restlessness. Um, I wasn't sleeping well and I was just feeling, you know, just a lot of pressure to get more done than I [00:10:00] felt like I had the bandwidth to do.

How it Brandi got out of being in the Shadow of her Open Root
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Kyle Wood: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can, I can identify with that. So you spoke a lot about pressure. So one of the things about the opener or undefined route is that there's a feeling that if you can get the thing done and relieve that pressure, so cross that thing off your to do list, get rid of that pressure, that then that'll, that stress, that pressure will, will go away. Uh, did you find that that was happening?

I.

Brandi Healy: No.

So ,you know, the, the to-do list was long, and even as I crossed things off the list, the things that were left still felt very daunting.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: And so, you know, the shadow of that open route is that feeling of overwhelm. . Um, and also like not feeling [00:11:00] like I could relax. And I know that when we caught up last week, I was telling you about all of my commitments and you're like, um, , like, what are you doing for yourself?

And, and I, there wasn't a whole lot. And so, you know, when I was able again to really look at that list and say like, what actually does require my immediate attention? And there were a, there were actually very few things. That

required my immediate attention. And when I was able to identify that, like I was able to step into that place of more of having, you know, wisdom of the center and like knowing everything on this list does not deserve that I.

And I can really give myself permission to slow down and actually relax. And so for me, that looked like, you know, canceling some commitments, taking some things off of my plate, saying no to things that I [00:12:00] would've normally said yes to. Um, and you know, even small things like I usually like to listen to audio books, but when I listen to audio books, I.

Also task and like do chores or busy my hands with other things. And even, you know, switching my leisure to reading a paperback or a hardback book instead really caused me to stop and focus and, you know, move a lot slower. And, you know, over the last two weeks I'm feeling so much better and. My stress levels have reduced significantly, and even as things kind of enter into my orbit, um, it's easy for me to tell, like, is that.

Mine or is that kind of somebody else's stress that's being projected on my, on me, [00:13:00] because in my house I live with, uh, both my kids have defined root centers so they can really project their stress out, um, at times. And so, you know, again, in wisdom you can kind of say like, this is my, this isn't mine. And you know, I can try to move through that.

Um, but when you're in the shadow of that open route, you can really absorb that on it's your own.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Which, you know, it can be tough in like a workplace, um, if you've got a boss that's got to find or even just other, other people you work with.

Brandi Healy: Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: And it was like last week, I remember when we caught up after you'd had a couple of weeks to rest and I was like, you look like you younger And, the other thing I wanna speak to as well is that the things you were taking on were not Bad things. Right? Like you were, you were teaching

extra yoga classes, like Yeah. Okay. You had some, you had stuff going on with the kids and family. Yeah. Okay. You had, you know, we were launching this podcast 'cause you [00:14:00] like, want to pursue, you know, doing this human design, being a human design guy as, as a career.

So it's, it's, like we, we can, and speaking of someone who's got an undefined route as well, I can definitely dress up these things as being like Important and needing to have now. But, um, if you find yourself doing that and every time you end in, in burnout, like you ended up at the emergency room with like a migraine, that was like crippling,

Brandi Healy: Yeah.

Kyle Wood: strong pain medication.

So that was like your will

Brandi Healy: Wildly unpleasant.

And you know, there's, there's the book, the Body keeps the score right? And it's like if you don't listen to the whispers, will start to scream

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: And I was not taking the time to listen to the whispers and I, you know, and so I was forced really. , [00:15:00] um, I was trying to white knuckle it and muscle through and say like, I want to do all of these things.

But the flip side of that is like they didn't need to all happen at the same time.

Why you shouldn't act under pressure
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Kyle Wood: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so for me, I mean, even before I knew about human design, I was wrestling with this undefined route because running your own business, the the to-do list is never ending. And you can always find more stuff to add to the to-do list. I mean, it can be as simple as being on social media for 20 minutes and you've now thought of like 17 thing more things you can do. And then there's, there's that pressure, especially I think like social media and even reading like email newsletters from other people. There can be this sense of like, pressure to like do this thing straight away. Uh, and, and money, money as well. I get that from money in the business. I, our business supports our family.

So if it's not earning a certain amount, that [00:16:00] creates a lot of pressure for me that I need to alleviate that problem straight away. Uh, which wars with the pressure of Wanting to also be like a present father and husband who's not, you know, so there's this war then that goes on where it's like, I wanna work 15 hours a day to try and relieve this pressure of, of getting the business to a point where I want it to be. But then I also wanna work two hours a day because I want to be available to my family to help out, you know, especially as like My wife's now growing her own business as well, so she needs time too. So, um, really being able to recognize those pressures, uh, stops me from just oscillating between the two and beating myself up constantly for not, 'cause you can't do both of those at the same time.

Brandi Healy: No.

Kyle Wood: then it's just like, [00:17:00] just beating myself up. So taking a minute to like, take a breath and wait for that pressure to subside. Then be like, okay, now what? What feels like the right, you know, I've got that splenic authority, so what's my intuition telling me about this decision once the pressure is dissipated?

But that's really the big thing for me with the undefined route, is like when I, if I have the awareness to notice that the pressure is there, because sometimes stuff does need it, sometimes stuff is urgent, right?

But

Brandi Healy: Of course,

Kyle Wood: till at least that initial pressure subsides till I feel calmer. Then I can see clearly, oh, this is actually urgent needs to be done, or yeah.

Or, oh, actually this does not need to be done right now. Um, I'm just adding another thing to my plate unnecessarily.

Brandi Healy: yeah. It's like really reflecting and, and like . First understanding like, is this mine? like if it is like, does this thing actually deserve my [00:18:00] hurry? Does it deserve Ru to be rushed? Um, is there anything kind of after you ask yourself those questions that you find useful to kind of release some of that stress?

How can you release built up stress and pressure?
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Kyle Wood: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's not as, this part is not as intuitive, like, we'll talk about defined in a sec. Uh, but my, you know, wife has defined root and she seems to handle, she'll get stressed and she'll feel pressure. She'll be like, all right, that means I need to go have a surf or I need to do that.

Whereas, you know, for years, and I think back to like, you know, studying and in school and, and you know, just the early days of running my business, um, just doing things in, in like a rush. Um, and now I've forgotten what [00:19:00] specifically the question was, but I was heading

Brandi Healy: What

do you do to release your stress?

Kyle Wood: What do I do to release

Brandi Healy: Yeah.

Kyle Wood: So when I'm conscious of it, um, strength training, which is funny, like sometimes for projectors it's like, oh, you should do yoga and stuff like that. But, you know, strength training is slow enough that get, it's not like overly depleting on my energy resources. Um, and yet I think especially as a man with like testosterone, um, you know, lifting heavy things is really, really beneficial to our moods. So, yeah, so like lifting weights and then, and then I've just been like letting myself do more walks slightly, which has been good too, with, again, juggling two people running their own businesses in our house. Um, get the kids outta the house. We're gonna go, we live seven minute walk from the beach. I. For a long time didn't utilize that.

So we walked down the beach and I just like, let the kids go, go nuts and um, and [00:20:00] then come back when we're ready to come back and don't really set, there's no pressure around that either. So I guess maybe that's where I'm going with this. Setting activities where there's no like, um, especially in my personal life where there is no like deadline

Brandi Healy: Hmm.

Kyle Wood: fixed thing. 'cause work can be, and the business can be so Gotta get this done today. Gotta get this

done tomorrow. Gotta get this. So really in my, my life and thinking about, that's what I wanna model for my kids anyways, is like, we're not going, you know, go to the playground for more than an hour and you'll see people rock up in their cars when, like, realistically where I live, everyone could walk to the, to the playground or ride bikes or something.

But I rock up in the cars. Quick 15 minute play and then they're like pulling the kids, you know, off the playground equipment to like throw 'em back in the car to go on to the next activity. That's not what I want. So it's, yeah, so allowing for those activities where I can just go spend time with the kids and have it be like open-ended, that probably is one [00:21:00] of the biggest. Yeah, that's a huge, that's a huge release for stress for me is there's like open-ended. We're just going to take our bikes or take, take the pram and we're just gonna go.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, being outside.

Kyle Wood: get and we'll, and we'll get back whenever. Yeah. Being outside. Yes. We've got that, that nature aspect in there as well.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, for me it's like I have a sauna bag, so it's like a sleeping bag and a heated blanket. Had a baby and

like it's a infrared sauna bag, so I like get in the same zip up, crank the heat up, put my headphones in, and yes, it's.

Kyle Wood: know that existed. That's much.

Brandi Healy: It's, it's heavenly. It's heavenly. So I love to get into that bad boy and then put my headphones in and like, listen to a sound bath.

Um,

Kyle Wood: Wow.

Brandi Healy: yes. So like I always, when I allow myself, I, I always joke that no one relaxes harder than I do. It's like weighted [00:22:00] eye mask, sauna bag, the headphones in, like. light, you know, light a candle or some incense or something like, it's like a vibe. Um,

or also really like to, um, get massages.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: so the day after I had that really bad migraine, that

Sent me to, uh, see a doctor. Um, they told me, they were like, you know, your muscles and your bo I had like, my, my muscles were so tight. That was, you know, one of the, I was a tension migraine. Um, and she was like, you know, your muscles are very or super rigid. So she was like, you know, he. Is gonna do a lot for that.

So as soon as I got home, I hopped in the sauna bag and then she was like, and if you can get a massage, and I was like, the doctor said I needed a massage. So I went and got a 90 minute massage and cupping the next day and I felt like

a million bucks and was just, uh, you know, again, a [00:23:00] reminder of um, . , you know, taking that time to slow down and, and really care for myself in, in ways that, that are nourishing to me.

And I think, you know, um, also being a projector, sometimes that time alone can really help me kind of

slow down and, and, and get back into my own energy. So, you know, we both, oh, go ahead.

Kyle Wood: I was, yeah, I was just gonna say, I find like, yeah, my brain needs time to like catch up and to like come down off those, um, these like hives that can be created by especially being around other people. Uh, and yeah, I have, so I have baths. I have like a really, like really hot, like as hot as

I can get it going, but it's like at least once a week, um, with like magnesium salts.

Brandi Healy: I was gonna say, do you throw a little magnesium in there?

Kyle Wood: Yeah. I flew quite a bit in and it'll be, it'll be funny 'cause like, you know, I'll be down [00:24:00] at the fire station and they'll be like, oh, what did you just say? I was like, oh, I had a bath. And they'll get the

Brandi Healy: So Manly.

Kyle Wood: is a grown man doing, having a bath? But, uh, but actually I picked up that at a, at a gym I used to go to 'cause they had a sauna and they're like, oh, if you can't sauna, crank your bath as hard as you can get the magnesium salts in.

Brandi Healy: Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: they had me like prescribed that to me for two times a week just to like get my magnesium levels back up. So it's the new manly thing to do.

Brandi Healy: Yeah. Magnesium bath. You heard it here first.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

What's the deal with having a defined (coloured in) Root Center?
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Brandi Healy: So we both talked about having people in our homes with defined route. So your wife has a defined route. Both my kids have defined root. Um, so you know, actually most people have a defined root about like 60% of people have a defined root, and these people tend to be naturally very driven.

Um, with their capacity to kind of create momentum for both themselves and for other people. Um, [00:25:00] and usually they have the, you know, ability to kind of maintain calm even when things are, you know, stressful in a more consistent way. Um, however they impact others, they can impact others with their stress.

So, you know, the shadow of a defined root can really show up as. You know, being is that overwhelm of stress and that projection of the stress making other people around them feel stressed with their stress. Um,

and I could definitely attest, um, to this when I. Our children are stressed out. My husband and I both have undefined roots.

And

Kyle Wood: Ah,

Brandi Healy: it could be, yes, it can. And I think, I think especially when they were, you know, toddlers, this was very spicy,

Kyle Wood: Yep.

Brandi Healy: it for us. Um, and so, you know, it's, it's really interesting [00:26:00] now having human design as a lens to see like, , how much of that we took on from them and how it threw us off Guilt , um, when they were smaller.

Um, but you know, these people in their wisdom, they have the ability to like remain really calm in like high, high stress situations. Um, and they are also cognizant of how their stress . impacts other people. Um, and usually, you know, they, you know, again, in their wisdom they have this like energy that has like the potential to kind of like ground other people because they're kind of have this like steadfast calmness even when kind of shit's hitting in the fan.

Um, and you know, you mentioned it with, with your wife of, you know, kind of when she's feeling it, one of the ways that she. Deals with it is kind of sweating it out, [00:27:00] like having to surf, doing yoga,

moving her body.

Um, with Mike,

Kyle Wood: Instinctual to her as well. Like she'll just be like, oh, I need to go. Whereas I can get really lost with that undefined, lost in

the stress and not realize that I need to like move through it. You get stuck in it. Whereas, yeah, that defined, they definitely seem to be able to move through. Understand, I need to move through that stress.

How to move through your stressed with a Defined Root?
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Brandi Healy: Yep. So like my son for example, like when he's in a mood like. , he goes out into the driveway, opens the garage, drags out a bucket of baseballs, and is just like out there like whacking balls off of the tee. And you know, with my daughter, she has a pogo stick and like, have you ever tried to use a pogo stick?

Kyle Wood: As a kid and I failed miserably.

Brandi Healy: It, it's hard. Like every time [00:28:00] like I try to use, I feel like I'm gonna like break my teeth. I'm like, this is like a facial injury waiting to happen. My daughter can do like, I don't know, like 200 jumps on this thing. It is.

Kyle Wood: Wow.

Brandi Healy: bananas. And so it's like she'll go outside and like get on her pogo stick. And I, I have a, a mini rebound or so, a little trampoline that's in my office and sometimes when they're in a mood, I'm like, I think you need a jump.

And I'll send them into my office and I'm like, why don't you put on a song you like, and have a jump. And like sometimes they'll be like kind of grumpy about it and then

they'll do it kind of reluctantly and after. And sometimes they stay in longer than one song. And then afterwards I'm like, how are you doing?

They're like, actually, I'm feeling, I'm feeling better. And it's like I could kind of. Fought it now, uh, when it's happening and it's like, why don't you go outside and ride your bike? Why don't you get in the pool and go for a swim? You know, why don't you go hit a [00:29:00] bucket at of balls or take the dog out for a walk?

You know, try to get them to move through that energy. Um, is, is definitely really useful.

Kyle Wood: Yeah, that's really helpful because mine both have defined roots too. They're a bit younger, so they don't have that self-awareness yet. So, um, that's a good one. The music dancing. Yeah, definitely helps. And yeah, we've got a trampoline out the back, so we do send them out, uh, to do that. Yeah, I like that. Uh, and 'cause, you know, we've got a, like the little one broke our TV yesterday, like knocked it over and it's, it's the screen's done and we are like, maybe we'll just, you know, Go with, see when, like go the rest of the year without a tv. So I do need activities for the kids to unwind, which would be better for them. So I'm, yeah, I'm curious to see like the, the what, what changes with them as well.

Brandi Healy: [00:30:00] um, there is like a baby version of a pogo stick. Also f y I. So my, this was our original thing. It was like a foam block.

Kyle Wood: Hmm.

Brandi Healy: they stand on the foam block and it has kind of like a bungee with handles. So they stand on the foam block. So they had that when they were like your kids, your kids' age,

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: and then

she

Kyle Wood: would love that.

Yep.

Brandi Healy: Yes, And so then when, then my daughter graduated to the new one, she does it one and no handed.

Kyle Wood: I'm like,

Brandi Healy: I know it is terrifying,

Kyle Wood: Uh, such a simple toy. Right. That's a good

Brandi Healy: Yeah, it is. It is.

Kyle Wood: The

Brandi Healy: I don't recommend it for people that are under the influence, though. I've seen ugly things happen.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. I feel like the early days of YouTube was filled with, um, pogo stick injuries.[00:31:00]

Brandi Healy: Yes. not recommended.

How does the Defined Root impact people with an Undefined Root?
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Kyle Wood: Yeah. Um, the, the other thing I wanted to mention about having that combination is that this was awesome for my wife and I when we, when I first went through the centers and got to this root center and was like, oh, I'm undefined, you're defined. 'cause I'm a very sensitive person with that undefined route, undefined emotional centen center.

I can really like pick up on other people's vibe and. So I used to just be like getting stressed and be really shitty no reason and worked out that, that I would be picking up on hers. And I used to really like I, it would be directed towards her because I guess there was some part of me that knew the stress was coming from her, but she didn't even. Realized she was stressed, I'd be like,

Brandi Healy: She was fine.

Kyle Wood: on? Yeah, yeah. She was handling it. She's got the defined stress

Brandi Healy: Yeah.

Kyle Wood: she's just like vibing it off. And [00:32:00] so now it's, it's really helpful 'cause it's like, oh, this is happening and I'll just leave the room. I'll just be like, oh, you seem really stressed right now.

I'm just gonna like leave for a minute. And um,

Brandi Healy: you, do you?

Kyle Wood: with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And yeah, it helps a lot. But even in the moment, if I can't leave, like knowing is not my stress, uh, is really helpful. And I think, yeah, for people who have that defined center, it's been helpful for her as well to know, oh, that's okay.

Like, he's not blaming me, you know, like I am just defined here and I do just project it out more. Uh, and then probably the other way it shows up in the family is because I'm the only one in the family with that undefined

route,

Brandi Healy: No

Kyle Wood: I, I'm probably a little bit empath, more empathetic though. To the kids' needs, like Zoe will be trying to go through the motions of like, you know, the normal morning routine and we'll be like, I don't [00:33:00] understand what's going on this morning, but you know, I. Can pick up very intuitively, oh, this is, this is happening. Oh, this happened yesterday, so this, this is what

Brandi Healy: Mm.

Kyle Wood: need right now. So that, that's the superpower. You might be like, oh, I'm undefined in my route, and I'm just like picking up people's stress and this is crap and I don't know how to move through stress.

But you, if you're in that wisdom, you've got that ability to really be able to like sense other people's stress and sense what they need in that moment too.

So,

Brandi Healy: Yeah, and kind of demonstrate, and you know when you can learn that lesson for yourself and embody that. Other people witness that and

can learn that from you?

Kyle Wood: Do you have, uh, anything else to say about the defined for our defined route listeners, or do we manage to cover it all?

I.

Brandi Healy: No, I just, I, again, I think, [00:34:00] like as I mentioned, it's the majority of people, . And so I think it's, you know, realizing that there was that balance between their ability to remain calm in stressful situations and at the sa and at the same time knowing that that inner energy impacts those that have that undefined or open.

And so your presence, it's either going to be grounding. or it could be destabilizing and stress other people out. So it's like having that wisdom is, you know, not only important to your own, you know, experience, but also just like for any defined center that you carry, understanding how you know the weight that that has in, um,

with the people that are around you.

Kyle Wood: and I mean that could be a, I can think of especially seeing as this podcast [00:35:00] is for health and wellness professionals. I can think of some instances when that can be a superpower too. Like, you know, If you are running a spin class or a high intensity workout, like your defined root center is going to help everyone in that group get through this like stressful moment. Uh, 'cause they're gonna pick up on, on yours, and it's going to give them pressure in that moment to be able to get through that workout. So,

Brandi Healy: Well, I could think, I could think of a perfect example of this.

So somebody that I know that I'm very close to is, um, leads retreats. They have a defined route center and they had a retreat goer who they went on a bike tour and was taking a selfie on the bike fell off. Broken bones, on this like rural background, and they like [00:36:00] swooped in, did like the necessary like, you know, emergency first aid measures, like had it all under control.

They're like, I completely left my shit after the fact. But like in the moment, , like it was on, it was on lock and you know, and. You know, I think that that really served, I'm sure the rest of the retreat goers that were present at that moment. Um, knowing that the person that was in charge, um, you know, was able to hold it together, you know, in this like actual crisis

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: uh, and, and navigate that.

Kyle Wood: Awesome.

Brandi Healy: I know everyone listening to this at like has ever run a retreat is like, that sounds like a nightmare.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, serious injury. Yeah. Yep. Awesome. All right. That's [00:37:00] our defined and undefined

Brandi Healy: That's the root

Kyle Wood: That's the root. Uh, we'll be back, uh, next episode of, we're gonna look at the sacral center, which is, um, a really important one no matter what your design is as well.

Brandi Healy: Well, thanks for that. Talk to you next time.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Talk to you then

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