Brandi Healy: hello, welcome to Well-Designed. I’m here with my co-host, Kyle Wood. How are you?

Kyle Wood: Hello. Hello. Uh, I am doing well, although I. Have identified as we were speaking just before we started recording that. I cannot remember anyone’s name today for some reason. So . So as long as just podcasts, we don’t actually have to talk about people and everyone’s happy. If I just say that person or them, uh, then we, we will be all good.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, so I will hold back any questions relating to people’s names that are in films

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: to save you from that embarrassment on recording.

Kyle Wood: even films. I was, I was struggling to get your name out of my mouth before and it’s like, right. It’s literally here on my screen as I like look at you. It says Brandy Healy. And I just, yeah, it was just so, it’s just one of those days.

Brandi Healy: It happens. It happens.

[00:01:45] What is the Spleen Center in Human Design?

Brandi Healy: So speaking of fears, today we are kind of continuing our series, talking about the energy sensors in human design, and today we’re going to be talking about the spleen, which. to me. I don’t know what your thoughts were when you first heard about this energy. I was like the spleen.

How? It’s weird.

Like so

Kyle Wood: my, authority, so it’s, yeah, it’s like I have a splenic authority. Like, what does that, what does that mean?

Brandi Healy: Yeah. Like what does that even mean? Yeah.

Even when you’re like learning in your biology, you’re like a spleen who needs a

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: isn’t that one of those organs you could remove and just

Kyle Wood: Yeah, you’re still

Brandi Healy: function in life? Yeah, I don’t think so. I don’t think so.

[00:02:30] Where can you find the Spleen Center on your chart?

Brandi Healy: So in human design, when you look at the body graph, if we are looking at the chart, it is on the left hand side and it is the triangle that is pointing towards the center of the chart.

The point of the triangle is pointing to the right and our spleen governs Our instincts, our intuition. It also governs fear, our fears and kind of our sense of survival. So, you know, depending on if this center is. Shaded in that will mean that you have the center defined. And if the center is white, that means you will have the center undefined or open. And again, we won’t go into the nuance too much here and we’ll use the terms kind of interchangeably. So similar to our last conversation, Kyle and I actually have the

opposite. I have an undefined spleen. And Kyle has a defined

spleen, so I’m gonna just kind of kick it off and chat a little bit about,

you know, the undefined spleen. So about 45% of people have this center undefined.

So

Kyle Wood: a, it’s like another 50 50 and

Brandi Healy: yeah. So, you know,

Kyle Wood: yeah. Yep.

Brandi Healy: yeah, it’s, it’s pretty

close. It’s pretty close. And. Yeah, exactly So you probably know someone that has it, the opposite

of you and the same as you, so not terribly rare.

[00:04:08] What does it mean if your spleen is undefined or open?

Brandi Healy: Um, so you know, for those of us that have the center open or undefined, we tend to be really sensitive to the fears of others and kind of sensitive to The wellbeing of others. And one of the lessons that we are really here to learn through this center is the lesson of learning to let things go that no longer serve us. And like most of the lessons that are undefined centers have to teach us. This is an area of our biggest learning, but it’s also an area that we are here to kind of serve others with and teach other people this gift of letting go. So when I kind of learned about that, that was something that was, that felt really good because you know, that’s what oftentimes I find that I spend a lot of time with my coaching clients on is kind of assessing What are things in their life that are draining their energy, whether it’s emotionally, energetically, you know, time-wise and you know, coming up with ways to either delegate those things out, maybe pull out of them, or, you know, transmute what that can look like, set boundaries around it so that they are less draining or, you know, releasing them entirely.

So that was something that was really You know, cool to learn, um,

Kyle Wood: Well, I’ll just say

Brandi Healy: for those

Kyle Wood: like you, that’s something I noticed you do with with me as well, even in our conversations that you’ll often hone into, like looking at that like bigger picture of my wellbeing of like what’s been going on rather than like whatever thing I’m just like stuck on. You’re able to like see what might be actually causing that in like yeah, bigger picture is pretty cool.

Brandi Healy: Thanks. Yeah. And, and it’s like, and again, you know, we look at these as like, these are kind of our superpowers, right? And oftentimes, like I always joke it’s like, use these for good, not evil. And what I mean by that is like a lot of times we try to use our own gifts on ourselves and they don’t really work

that way. like, Super easy for me to be like, Kyle, you have a lot on your

plate. Maybe you should look at like not doing whatever. But on the flip side of that, like back at the ranch, I’m having migraines because

like I’m not resting So you know, with that, with each of these centers, right? There is this shadow element and there’s this wisdom element.

[00:06:54] Why do you end up taking on others’ fears as your own?

Brandi Healy: So When we are in the shadow of our undefined or our open spleen, we can feel very overwhelmed by other people’s fears. And so this is something that I resonate with very deeply and it’s, you know, this fear of what other people are gonna say, what other people are going to think, and when. I really hone into like, what is that?

It’s like oftentimes those are things that other people are afraid of, right?

They’re afraid of looking foolish. They’re afraid of making a mistake. They’re afraid of, you know, fill in the blank. And, you know, our open centers really amplify what we are taking in. So if you find yourself Feeling really fearful. If you have the center undefined, it can be super useful to just ask yourself like, is this actually my fear or is it another person’s fear that I’m amplifying? And again, this can be Way easier when you’re working with somebody else than for ourselves. But once you start to, or you know, working with another person and kind of talking them through or having them talk you through, like, this is something I work with my therapist on and you know, it’s been really helpful over the last few years to be able to identify and say Oh, I’m actually like amplifying this kind of cultural fear that I was raised with

and it’s actually not something I am really afraid of more so it is like a systematic belief. I was raised to. Believe in,

Kyle Wood: Yeah,

Brandi Healy: but I don’t really think it’s true or it’s not really true for me anymore. It’s this story I’ve told myself, and there might be people in my life that still hold onto this truth and hold onto this fear, but it’s not actually mine.

And I think,

oh yeah, please.

Kyle Wood: because. Of like conditioning, which is this concept.

Brandi Healy: Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: be conditioned through our open centers. So often, I guess we talk about with human design, you’re being impacted by the people you’re around, but this is something that can happen. What you’re saying is this is something that can happen, have happened a long time ago, that you’re still holding onto this set of like fears and so it’s still impacting you today even when you’re not around those people.

Is that right?

Brandi Healy: Yes.

So, and

it’s like even when you’re not around those people, but again, it’s just like you’re holding onto that story that that Experience

or that thing is something to be

feared. Um, even though like, again, it’s no longer true for you. So, you know, that can be something to look on. Or, you know, even things like, you know, familially, maybe there were things in your family that were not allowed.

So like, we’ll use like a really, you know, generic example of like You know, you weren’t allowed to eat in, in the living room

or something. And like you have this like fear of eating in the living room as an adult when like maybe really you don’t give a shit. Like,

it was always like, as a kid, your Dr.

Your dream to eat in front of the television and now you’re like, Hey, wait a minute. I can actually eat in front of the television and I don’t really care about eating on my sofa. You know, that’s just like a very superficial example of that.

[00:10:35] Why do we amplify the fears of those around us?

Brandi Healy: But, you know, really starting to under when you can kind of understand maybe where these fears come from and start to question whether again, you’re amplifying Something outside of you, a fear that comes outside of you or one that comes in from your, from yourself. And I think, you know, the last three years have been you know, a very like fearful climate in the world with

everything that went on with C O V I D. And I think that, you know, there were a lot of instances where things have got, you know, Very amplified and I, regardless of how people felt about certain situations, you know, it was like a very

volatile

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah.

Brandi Healy: So, you know, that was like a tricky time to really determine like, you know, what are my concerns versus what am I amplifying that I’m absorbing and taking in through,

Kyle Wood: Yeah. And

Brandi Healy: know, the media that I consume and the people that I talk to, um, and things like that.

Kyle Wood: yeah, with like 45% of the world absorbing and reflecting and amplifying the current fears that are going around, yeah, yeah, you can really, well, we, we all saw what happened. like, yeah. You can

Brandi Healy: Yeah, exactly. . It’s kind kind

of a shit show.

[00:11:58] How can I move through the fears that other’s are putting onto me?

Kyle Wood: that actually is a good spot for one of the questions I had for you. So what’s a practice you do or you have to let go when you notice you’re holding onto those fears that aren’t yours?

Brandi Healy: So,

you know, I think that something like, again, like I have people that are close to me that I could go to to talk things through and you know, like. There’s that saying like, it takes a village to raise a child. Well, it’s like I’m still that child and I have my village I have my village, right? It’s like I have my partner, I have my therapist, I have a few very close friends that I go to.

I have you, you know, that like these sounding boards that I have in my life that can kind of help bring me back to myself. And I think, you know, really also kind of using Using my authority to like know for myself like, is this actually mine? you know,

take a beat. If, if it’s something that’s like a, you know, a fear that is spanning like a lot of time it’s like, is this actually something that I am afraid of?

Or is it something that I am just amplifying that’s outside of me?

And usually if I can allow that, that emotional wave to kind of settle, I can really see like whether it’s a work situation, a familial situation, a societal situation. It’s like, oh no, like When I let my emotions settle down and I really tap into like, what’s going on, it’s like I’m not actually scared of that. Like I’m amplifying

someone else’s story.

Kyle Wood: Yep.

Brandi Healy: Um, and I think it’s really being able to kind of like, just like with the emotions, kind of be able to sit with those fears, um, and like observe them and kind of move through them. Um, so I find that those things, you know, tend to be, tend to be really helpful.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah. That’s so cool.

Brandi Healy: So

Kyle Wood: that’s

Brandi Healy: I,

[00:14:09] What are other ways you can be in the shadow of your undefined spleen?

Brandi Healy: I, you know, the, the other big shadow element that can come with this as well is holding onto things longer than are healthy

or right for you.

Kyle Wood: so like jobs

Brandi Healy: Um,

Kyle Wood: and stuff like

Brandi Healy: relationships. Ways of doing things. So it’s just

kind of like that thought process of like, this is how it’s always been done, so we’re just going to do it.

And it’s kind of like, you know that saying it’s the devil, you know? Right. It’s like, it might not be great, but it’s familiar, so we’ll just kind of hang out here or, so this has been a big one for me, you know, in the last Uh, five years really, you know, being able to identify jobs, relationships, um, as you know, Um, I have really evolved to create more space and more flow in my life. Um, and it, it’s challenging because, you know, sometimes like our misery and our discomfort is like this warm co blanket that we,

that we wrap ourselves up in. And, you know, even though it’s uncomfortable, we choose to stay there because it feels safer. Than the unknown. And again, this is another opportunity where it’s important to be able to use your authority to know what’s worth holding onto and what maybe is time to let go of. And I think also based off of our type, you know, asking ourselves, does this situation. Make me feel in alignment. So like for me it’s like, do I feel successful in this space as a projector?

Do I feel deeply seen and valued for what I contribute? Or on the flip side of that, it’s like, do I feel bitter?

You know? So I think knowing, you know, tapping into your type and what your signature and your not self is, can be a good indicator in situations where Am I just here because it’s what I know, or am I here because it’s what’s in alignment for me?

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yes. The. , that’s, I mean, that’s always the thing we talk about is it’s like come back to, especially with those open centers, come back to your authority. Um, and yeah, and your signposts, uh, can be really helpful there as well for your type.

[00:16:39] What are the gifts of an open or undefined spleen center?

Brandi Healy: So just, you know, a few other little kind of nuggets here with this is like reminding yourself that you know, when you’re in that state of fear, Whether it’s your own or you’re amplifying someone else’s, it’s like we’re not meant to make decisions from that place. So, you know, leaning into your authority is really important and you know, when we’re in our wisdom of this center, you know, we can be really open to change and willing to take risks.

Risks when it comes to new ways of doing things. And we know when to step out of opportunities that don’t feel right for us. And because we’re also sensitive to other people’s wellbeing, we can really tell when things are going to be Emotionally, mentally, spiritually enriching for us and when they’re not. So, you know, these are all kind of, you know, things to notice, like. when I am, you know, in the space of my wisdom, like these things come to me with ease. And when you’re feeling kind of stuck and sticky in these places, that’s, you know, an opportunity for you to just start to trust that, you know, you can sit with these challenging moments and move through them and really learn from them to kind of move past them.

Kyle Wood: Uh, the other thing I had down, which I didn’t know if you wanted to speak to, especially with your background as a yoga instructor, was . That there’s something about when you’re in your wisdom, uh, with having an open spleen or undefined spleen about that you’re here to really help others feel good,

Brandi Healy: Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: and that should tie into your marketing as well, like, that you’re focused on perhaps not the the what you do, but like how they’re gonna feel afterwards.

Has, has that shown up for you?

Brandi Healy: Yeah, absolutely. And I think not only is my work as a yoga instructor, but also as a coach and you know, in my professional life as well, it’s like I do a lot of coaching in that space. Also,

and it’s interesting because it’s like, you know, before finding human design, I was really into strength-based leadership. And so it was about helping people identify what they were good at

and leaning into that. And like that’s, you know, very much what human designed. It’s just, you know, we’re talking about different gifts, right? And so me, the intention is always, you know, in a yoga class, it’s like when that person walks out, I want them to always feel better when they’re walking out than they did when they’re coming in.

And the same goes for a client in a coaching conversation or somebody that you know has worked for me in the past. It’s like when we have a conversation, a developmental conversation, it’s like I always want that person to feel uplifted and empowered. Versus broken down because we’ve all had a conversation where somebody, whether it was a boss, a parent, and you know, maybe we made a mistake or we’re learning something new and you just feel really helpless, like, I’m never gonna get it. And then we’ve had that conversation, you know, another kind of conversation with someone where they’re, where you’re like, I can’t do it yet, but like I will be able to do it.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah.

Brandi Healy: So that’s kind of how I feel like it’s shown up for me.

Kyle Wood: I always feel good after talking to you as well, so

Brandi Healy: Val, I feel validated. Thank you,

Kyle Wood: That’s good.

[00:20:35] What does it mean to have a defined spleen in Human Design?

Brandi Healy: So do you wanna chat with us a bit about the define spleen? And again, as Kyle mentioned, you know, this is his authority.

So not only is this center dictates, you know, how he makes his decisions.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. I probably don’t spend enough time or pay enough attention to my other defined centers be because this one, because you know, like as we just spoke about, More impacting of other people through those defined centers. But it’ll definitely be something interesting to explore down the track. But with my spleen, I do pay attention to that one because it’s, um, governed in my authority.

So we spoke before about like fear. I mean, fear still plays a big part with having a defined. center.

[00:21:25] What does it mean to ‘follow your intuition’?

Kyle Wood: But, um, a big part of it is intuition. It’s like in the moment knowing, so also we’ve spoken in an earlier episode about like, perhaps the more masculine way of saying this, it’s like instinct, although quite like the feeling of intu intuition, and I like the phrase intuitive knowing, because that’s often what it is.

It’s like, it’s a knowing. It’s not like a. I’m getting a hit in this direction. It’s like a, no. This is something that’s just like being downloaded into me that I know to be true. And I don’t know why I know this to be true . I don’t know how to explain it to other people why it’s true. Uh, but it’s, this is the truth.

Um, and this is what it’s telling me. this is then what I feel like I need to do based on, on this new truth that’s just happened. So it’s a pretty.

Brandi Healy: In, this is the word of Kyle

Kyle Wood: It’s a pretty well that’s, this is my experience of it, and it is, I think it’s like a hard one for people to, to wrap their head around, especially if you haven’t spent time exploring it.

Brandi Healy: for sure. And, and when you kind of have, when that knowing comes to you, like what does it feel like in your body?

Kyle Wood: Uh, it doesn’t feel . , like anything, like that’s a, that’s, I think that’s when I know it’s, it’s that, and it’s not fear or it’s not me being impacted through my stress or emotional open stress, uh, route or emotional centers because it, it’s like, it’s got a calmness to it. It’s like a calm knowing, which could, can then very quickly be replaced with fear and other things, but yeah.

That’s how I’ve learned to trust my intuition is that it doesn’t come with like a big fanfare. It’s just like this is the thing. Uh, and with that comes, which is of course makes sense because whenever our authority is directing us, it’s also our bodies are aligning, aligning to create a sense of energy behind it as well.

So that’s probably the other thing is that there’s the intuitive knowing and then there’s a desire. A calm desire to take action straight away and like an energetic desire. But it’s not, what I’ve had to learn is it’s not that. ’cause I can create a lot of pressure from my open route. So it’s not that and from my like defined, um, head.

So it’s not that or defined mind. So it’s not that like stressy, stressy pressure, um, Yeah. And so because of that, it can be easy to ignore. It can be easy to be like, uh, that doesn’t make sense, that’s not convenient. That’s, uh, you know, and to start getting up on my head and, and getting, getting out of it.

Brandi Healy: And so, you know, have you noticed, like when you were saying like when it, it’s fear that comes up in your body, like is there like a recurrent fear that comes up for you? Can it just be different depending on, you know, what the decision is that you need to make?

Kyle Wood: Uh, it’s usually, it can, it can be different, and it, it depends on the thing, like the, the bigger the decision, the stronger the knowing is, and. And so with that comes, so for example, I’ll put some examples to it. So for example, when I was going to move, uh, when I moved overseas for a year, like that came to me in the shower and it was just like, bang, I needed to do this.

And the fear didn’t come straight away because that was such a strong, I guess, ’cause it’s such a big life change to like pack everything up and move overseas. There was . This big hit. And then it was like, yeah, that’s, that’s what I need to do. And I spoke to Zoe about it and she was on board. Um, and then the fear came like up later on the track where it’s like, what are you doing?

But for whatever reason, it was before I even knew about human design or, or about intuition. had enough self-knowledge then to be like, no, it was, this was very, a very clear message. And so I am going to, this is a normal part of the process is that I’m going to feel scared or uncertain and to stick with that decision.

But, uh, like I, I was probably meditating a lot fairly regularly back then as well. So I would say that probably did help a lot. ’cause that is one of the things that’s recommended if you have this defined, whether it’s your authority or not, is to have some sort of practice. That helps you quiet your mind, whether that’s walking in nature or meditating or, um, I mean, there’s no shortage of mindfulness practices out there these days, so, so

Brandi Healy: Cues your

Kyle Wood: able to find one play.

My friend does play-based mindfulness. Uh, so getting into that like flow play state, um, yeah, so. Uh, I think that’s definitely an important practice for me, and it’s one that I’m not always consistent with, and so that can be when I get into trouble and, and stop hearing that intuition is when I am not taking that time out by myself, but I’m just like,

Brandi Healy: Hmm.

Kyle Wood: in the moment, and then it’s like the, it just goes, the voice goes.

So, uh, yeah, it’s, it is an important one.

[00:27:18] What does it look like to be in the shadow of your defined spleen?

Brandi Healy: So what are some things that, for others that have this center defined, they might be on the lookout, you know, that might take them in their shadow.

Kyle Wood: Um, I think disregarding the idea that there is an intuition. So,

um, and then like with all like authority type things, it’s like trying to make all your decisions with your mind. So if you’re spending a lot of time up in your head and you’re not doing any kind of, I mean, I’ll say embodiment practice. But I also want to speak to any, like men who are listening to this who might not be like, familiar with that.

Um, so, you know, even just like doing a workout, doing a workout, not listening to a podcast or like, music’s usually fine, but, um, doing a workout without distractions, that just lets you like, get back to yourself. Uh, it was something I heard someone say the other day, like, travel, and I was like, yeah, that’s, that is a big one.

I. Um, as well, so like new

locations can often, because I guess I’m disconnecting from the usual things that impact me. It, it allows me to like, reconnect with myself, uh, in a stronger way. And so that can be really helpful too. Uh, for me. Water. So like swimming, being in the ocean, showers, baths, like that’s all really good.

Um, quiet moments, especially with kids. Like sometimes you shower is your only when that

Brandi Healy: Oh Yeah. It’s your alone time,

Kyle Wood: like you’re alone time, so, so sometimes it’s early time when it’s quiet enough for your like, intuition to be like, hello, I’m still here. I have something to say.

Brandi Healy: Well, it was funny, I was going to mention that when you were like, oh, when I had this intuitive hit to go overseas, I was in the shower and it was like probably at that point in your life that was, may have been like one of your quiet times,

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Yeah.

Brandi Healy: And, and that’s, it’s interesting ’cause a lot of people that have this type of intuition and other parts of their design, they get these hits like, You know, people often say it came to be in the shower because like, we don’t have our phone in there,

you know, nobody’s talking to

us hopefully, or you know, as long as you don’t have children pounding on the door or you know, somebody else that needs to go to the bathroom at that time. But, you know, when we really think about like how we’re kind of hardwired all the time to like be connected to others. Sometimes like that shower might be your

only alone time. So really noticing, you know, especially for those of you that have this as your authority or you know, even if you just have a center defined like that alone, time is critical to allow you to develop some practices that help you tap into that authority.

[00:30:16] How can I support someone with a defined spleen?

Brandi Healy: You know, my son my 13 year old son has this authority as well. And so one of the things that I notice for him when he gets kind of in these fear-based, these fear-based states, so he is a very sweet and compassionate person. And like sometimes he’ll come in to our bedroom and be like, I can’t sleep. And I’m like, what’s going on?

And he’s like, I am thinking about the war in Ukraine, and I’m like, oh, blood, you know, and it’s, it, it just like can overtake

him to the point again where it disrupts him and he can’t sleep. And it’s like, or even when I ask him a question about something and he gives me an immediate response for me being a wait for clarity authority, sometimes I wanna ask him, are you sure?

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: but it’s really my job to get out of the way. And, and even if it’s something that I can’t honor for whatever reason, I have to, at, at minimum validate like, Hey, I get that and validate that that’s the right choice for you. Unfortunately, we can’t do it because of X, Y, or Z

and really try to catch myself when I am asking, are you sure? Or if he gives me an answer. And I’m like, why? And of course you’re gonna ask, I’m gonna, as a parent, you’re gonna ask why for things around like safety or like, who’s with you? Like, those are like very normal things. But if it comes down to like we’re shoe shopping I’m like, you know, or you know, right now we’re talking about where he’s going to go to school next year. And he is like, has this, you know, when we were talked about it, he’s like, no, I wanna go to this school. And it was really easy for me to wanna start to like Pick and prod. But really when it came down to it, I wanted to make sure that like his experience was really good and like I really wanted to honor and trust this knowing that he had around, you know, what that decision felt like to him.

Fortunately, it was more convenient for us, so I’m like all for it. didn’t have to break. Didn’t have to break his little harder on that one, but you know. Again, like it can be helpful to also understand who in your life, you know, has these centers that are similar to yours. Who in your life has these centers that are different than yours? And, you know, we haven’t met for these last two episodes to be tied around authority. However,

they have just you know,

Kyle Wood: out. Yeah.

Brandi Healy: that it just kind of panned out that way.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. The fear thing is . Is a big one, and I, I can get stuck in there. I think it helps that I, I don’t have a defined mind, so like, I’m

Brandi Healy: do have a defined mind,

Kyle Wood: It helps that I do have a defined mind. It don’t have an undefined mind, so I’m not getting like other, I’m pretty consistent about my own ideas about things, so I, so it’s not, I can imagine if you had that, it would be easy to get like

Other people’s ideas in it and then get like stuck on a fear thing. I definitely, I definitely still feel fear and have to like work through that. Um, and I can definitely be in my shadow there around not. Perhaps focusing on the right things because of, because of fear. But I feel like probably running my own business for so long has been really helpful with that.

And like keeping that in check of, like understanding like when am I just operating out of that, like reactionary fear and when, when is it actually now I said that out loud. Uh, I was gonna say something else. Speaking to the fear aspect to how it connects.

No, it’s not coming back to me. Uh, so I would say the, the biggest thing I get stuck in my shadow around with having a defined spleen is trying to use my defined head and my defined mind, which a disconnected from the rest of my body. No channel of connections to try and solve everything. And I was really taught from a young age that that was how you make decisions is like from that place.

Brandi Healy: Use your head.

Kyle Wood: Did very well at school in sciences and maths for that reason. Always loved doing like drama and music and things like that, but always relied on my mind to, to learn a lot of that. To learn a lot of the stuff that was safe with its rigid answers. Uh, and so that’s been like a deconditioning process of like becoming an adult and something since I’ve learned human design that I’ve really had to be aware of, of like, oh, I got it.

I need to like drop back down out of my mind into my body. ’cause that’s where the wisdom is.

Brandi Healy: Have there, can you think of like a time maybe in the past where you made a, made decisions that were guided by fear versus like really being in the wisdom of like your intuitive knowing.

Kyle Wood: Oh, probably all the all the time.

Uh, it’s hard to say. It’s little

I think like throw mo , fear of missing out is like a big one that often plays into stuff. So sometimes I’ll like commit to, um, to doing something because I think . Because I have a fear around like, what will be thought of me if I, if I don’t. So rather than like listening to my intuitive knowing that might be like, you need to rest or you actually need to go over here and do this thing.

So I can’t think of anything specific off the top of my head

with this one right now. But that’s, that’s generally what it is. It’s like, um, yeah, a fear, either a fear of missing out or fear of like letting down other people. that will then override my intuition, but I feel I’m getting a lot better, better at this.

My wife has the same authority, so we’ve really been trying to support each other with this to like listen to that and respect that and not like you do with your son. Like, not question that. Uh, I know, you know, sometimes I’ll get like a vi, I’ll get a intuitive knowing on people.

Brandi Healy: Mm, mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: to distrust that.

So really bringing that back to, yeah, you can trust that. And if you feel like even if everybody else likes this person

Brandi Healy: you don’t

have to

Kyle Wood: says, yeah, like if I’m getting a hit on them, then, um, and Zoe to like tease me a bit about it. Uh, about when I’d have this reaction to people, oh, it’s just ’cause da, da da, it’s just ’cause da, da da.

But now, yeah, I don’t question it. It’s like, no. And same thing

Brandi Healy: I feel flattered. I, I,

Kyle Wood: Sometimes I just get a

Brandi Healy: passed the vibe checked.

Kyle Wood: Oh yeah. Well you had, you were the opposite. You are like immediately like, I like this person. Um, and I want to get to know them better. And so trusting that, so that’s a big, big part of it too.

Like you just relationships and interacting with people. Uh, meeting. You know, we, we have kids, you meet like lots of other parents. So it’s like really helpful for knowing like, which parents should I like, am I gonna make an, an effort with, to connect with, you know, having that fourth line with it, like those connections really important.

You can really use my intuition to guide me there yeah, not get stuck in the the fear thing.

Brandi Healy: That’s awesome.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. I dunno if I have anything, any more to share on having that. Uh, I think people could go back to my, the reading you did on me episode three if they wanted to. I’ll do a show link in the show notes, uh, where I talk a bit more about, we talk about my authority then as well, how the shows up as an authority if they’re curious, if they’ve also got the splenic authority.

Brandi Healy: And I think this gave me an idea for later down the line, we can have a follow up episode that talks more about fears because in your spleen or in every energy center, there are different numbers, which are gates.

And in the spleen specifically, each of those gates represents a different fear.

So if you have some of those shaded in, um, you know, those correlates to, to different fears. Fears. But since today we’re just talking about the energy center itself, we just wanna plant a, a fearful seed

out there of like, something to maybe talk about, uh, at a later date.

Kyle Wood: Yeah. Cool. I hope that was helpful to everyone listening and, uh, we’ll be back. I think up next we are organizing some more guests to be on the show, but we’ll also be back, we’ll finish off this series of, um, on the centers mingled in between the other ones. Uh, and if we haven’t done some of your centers you wanna learn about, you can listen to the overview we episode we did on centers as well, which I also early link to on the show notes.

Cool.

Brandi Healy: Thanks, so much, Kyle.

Kyle Wood: Brandy. That’s good talking to you as always.